Showing posts with label Bush. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Bush. Show all posts

Vitriolic Rhetoric by WHICH Party and Against WHICH President?

Before I begin the main part of this post I am again sending my condolences to the loved ones of the victims who were killed in this violent massacre.  My thoughts and prayers go out to all the victims who were hurt and their families as they recover from this horrific tragedy. 


It is truly sickening in our country when politics enters into a national tragedy, and the Left tries to capitalize on a bloody situation to further their political gain.  For the Left to make false accusations and try to make the connection between either symbols or fiery debate on issues and this shooting is extremely disturbing and unwarranted.  The main reason I am writing this post is to correct misinformation by the Left. 


The NY Times is one news outlet that is trying to connect opposition to the President's policies and fiery rhetoric as a cause for the shooting or playing a role in some way in this shooting.   First, Jared Lee Loughner, the shooter,  was NUTS!!! .... mentally unstable and to say that politics or fiery rhetoric made him do this evil act is journalistic malpractice in my opinion.  Second, his political leanings were of a liberal anarchist and to try to connect the Tea Party, conservative commentators, or any conservatives to either him or this incident is absurd.  Brian Lilley of Lilley's Pad points out that it is truly sick for people to try and connect this shooting with Sarah Palin when it is solely the lone gunman's responsibility for his committing this heinous act.  
He also points out the spin being played by the liberal media.  Just because I point out that Loughner has liberal leanings doesn't mean that that is that I'm attributing his actions to his politics.  Brian Lilley shows two targeted maps of districts one used by Republicans and the other by Democrats.  So, for Democrats and the liberal media to act as if Democrats have never done anything remotely similar to Sarah Palin while denouncing her political map and casting aspersions is despicable and hypocritical.  


The New York Times article states: "But it is legitimate to hold Republicans and particularly their most virulent supporters in the media responsible for the gale of anger that has produced the vast majority of these threats, setting the nation on edge.  Many on the right have exploited the arguments of division, reaping political power by demonizing immigrants, or welfare recipients, or bureaucrats."  The NY Times provides NO PROOF to back up their accusation.  Does the NY Times have proof that a Tea Party member, or a conservative who listens to Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, or other conservative media played a role in any of the violent acts which took place right after the health care law was passed?  Heck, it could have been a liberal trying to make conservatives look bad or simply a nut.  So, I say to these liberal Commie journalists either prove it or retract a most irresponsible and unproven allegation.  


When an administration's spending is way out of control, and government takes over health care,  car companies, student loans, banks, Obama uses the EPA to bypass Congress and institute his Cap & Trade policies, he uses unconstitutional Czars to implement unconstitutional regulations, conservatives had/have every right to express anger.  When DHS labels opponents of the Left's ideology as "right-wing extremists" how the heck are we supposed to respond?  By heating up the rhetoric and stating the absurd - labeling conservatives "right-wing extremists" - those in the Obama administration have effectively made themselves enemies of half of the country.  But, that was done on the Obama administration's own volition.  And, these libs wonder why conservatives might get a little angry, expressing our righteous anger against this indignant, ignorant and radical administration. These libs are so clueless.  I guess the temperature of the rhetoric should have been lowered during the Bush years and activists against both wars needed to stop using their freedom of speech to promote hatred, vile acts, and should have just fallen in line and been alright with all of the Bush administration's policies.  Of course not, because the New York Times and the rest of the liberal media ONLY care about liberals freedom of speech.  Here are some examples of the heated rhetoric by the anti-war Left which was directed toward President Bush.  The ignorant, illegitimate Left wing Media were silent as a Church mouse when there was heated rhetoric under Bush. I am against THREATS TO ALL POLITICAL FIGURES. 


FROM ZOMBLOG

A protester with a sign saying “Kill Bush” and advocating that the White House be bombed, at the March 18, 2007 anti-war rally in San Francisco.


Unfortunately place and time weren't documented.



“Save Mother Earth, Kill Bush” says this sign from a November 20, 2003 protest.



Original source unknown.


A recommendation that Bush should hang, from an October 27, 2007 protest in Los Angeles.



"Bush is the disease, Death is the cure,” says this protester at an anti-war rally in San Francisco.



This man calls for “Death to...Bush” at the March 18, 2007 anti-war rally in San Francisco.


A sign saying "Bush — the only dope worth shooting,” at the March 15, 2008 anti-war rally in Los Angeles.


Bush being burned in effigy, at a November 3, 2004 post-election anti-Bush rally in San Francisco.



Bush being beheaded by a guillotine, at an Obama campaign rally, Denver, October 26, 2008.


An effigy of Bush being killed, at the April 10, 2004 anti-war rally in San Francisco.




The anti-Israel conspiracy site nogw.com hosts this pdf file which describes a mock trial and execution of George Bush for a bizarre litany of purported crimes; included in the document is this image of Bush being hanged at the trial. 


Then Sen John Kerry responded in such a way to Bill Maher in October of 2006 on the HBO show Real Time which could have been construed as a threat: 

Maher: You could have went to New Hampshire and killed two birds with one stone.
Kerry: Or, I could have gone to 1600 Pennsylvania and killed the real bird with one stone.

Full transcript here


The we have Kilborn: 


On August 4, 2000, when Bush won the Republican nomination (but before he was president), Craig Kilborn on CBS’s The Late Late Show with Craig Kilborn ran a graphic of the words “SNIPERS WANTED” under George Bush as he gave his acceptance speech. Although CBS belatedly apologized five days later, Kilborn was never investigated, questioned or punished, and continued to host the show for four more years.


Now the progressives or liberals reaction to this horrible tragedy is to take away even more of our rights.  TCL has posted information on Congressman Brady's plan to introduce a bill against inflammatory language. Who decides what is considered inflammatory speech?  What is considered inflammatory to one person may not be considered inflammatory to another person. Matt of Conservative Hideout exposes Leftist hate.  Maggie at Maggie's notebook has posted on Blaming the Tea Party and Sarah Palin for Giffords shootings

Bill Lilley  says that: 
"We can’t let the acts of what appears to be a crazed gunman, one described by classmates as crazy and a left-wing pot-head not a right wing Tea Partier, change the way we speak to each other.
Should any of us seriously be talking about blowing away our enemies? No."
   
The gunmen is a 9/11 Truther. 

It seems like a greater number of threats and violent acts occur during economic downturns.  If there are indeed more threats happening under Obama than under Bush it may have something to do with the fact that under most of Bush's presidency the unemployment rate was around 5.5 % and the unemployment rate now is presently at 9.4% and this brings the nut jobs out.  

Freedom of speech is precious and is a right afforded to we the people by the Constitution and we cannot let progressives use one horrific tragedy to limit our first amendment right to free speech.  


Pelosi, Where's The Proof?

On May 14, 2009 Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi accused the CIA of lying about the timeline of when she was informed on the use of enhanced interrogation techniques. Pelosi accused the CIA of deliberately misleading Congress over the use of techniques such as waterboarding.

Where's the Proof?

She called for a truth commision to investigate where the blame lay. The White House is against a truth commission since it would be looking backwards instead of forwards.
According to an article on Times Online on May 15, "."Republicans have insisted in recent weeks that Ms Pelosi and other senior Democrats were told that waterboarding had been used as early as September 2002, but had made no attempt to protest against techniques they have since condemned as torture."
In a press conference she rebutted such charges, saying: "To the contrary, we were told explicitly that waterboarding was not being used." Asked if the CIA had lied, Ms Pelosi replied: "They misled us all the time."

Where's the Proof?

In earlier statements Pelosi stated that she had not been told that waterboarding was being used during those briefings. One one hand Pelosi accuses CIA of withholding information then on the other hand she accuses the CIA of lying about waterboarding regarding the use of waterboarding on Abu Zubaydah.
As a former CIA director and former President of the United States George H.W. Bush is sticking up for the CIA amid the accusations manufactured by Nancy Pelosi.
In an interview that he had with the Washington Times, Bush takes a gentlemanly shot at the speaker for suggesting she was misled by the agency during a 2002 briefing on interrogations. Bush stated:
"I think she made most unfortunate comments, and I think she's paying a price for it, I think people see her as having been told — briefed on some things and then kind of acting like it didn't happen. So I'm a little disappointed in her."When asked directly whether the CIA lies "all the time," Mr. Bush said it does not.

It has been over a month since Pelosi's accusations against the CIA happened. Over the past month or so she has stated many different versions of what supposedly happened according to her. Yet, since then she has not provided any proof that the CIA has misled or lied to her regarding the enhanced interrogation techniques. The CIA has both consistently and repeatedly stuck to their same story. Pelosi's charge against the CIA, that they lied to Congress, is a very serious accusation which could also be considered a criminal offense. I believe that Pelosi needs to either provide proof that the CIA lied to her or she should make a statement apologizing to the CIA for making a false accusation against them. If these are classified documents and Pelosi wants to prove that she is not lying and making false accusations than I think she needs to request for the documents be declassified. I agree with her on one point that I would love a truth commision to happen in order to verify who exactly was lying and who was telling the truth. Let the American people find out the truth with reference to exactly which one, the CIA or Nancy Pelosi, was lying with regard to exactly when the information pertaining to enhanced interrogation techniques was released to the intelligence committee. I believe that the burden of proof lies with Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi since she is the one making the outrageous accusations.


Pelosi, Show The Proof
or Apologize to the CIA!!!!

Should The FBI Be Reading Suspected Terrorists Miranda Rights?

While on the ground at the U.S. base detention facilities in Bagram, Afghanistan Congressman Mike Rogers(R-MI) discovered that FBI agents are reading Miranda Rights to terror suspects.
The Department of Justice Dan Boyd has confirmed this.

Boyd stated:
"There has been no policy change and nor blanket instruction issued for FBI agents to Mirandize detainees overseas. While there have been specific cases in which FBI agents have Mirandized suspects overseas, at both Bagram and in other situations, in order to preserve the quality of evidence obtained, there has been no overall policy change with respect to detainees."

This policy was started under the Bush administration.

Rogers, a former FBI special agent and U.S. Army officer, says the Obama administration has not briefed Congress on the new policy. “I was a little surprised to find it taking place when I showed up because we hadn’t been briefed on it, I didn’t know about it. We’re still trying to get to the bottom of it, but it is clearly a part of this new global justice initiative.”

The FBI claim to only Mirandize very specific detainees for very specific reasons.

I don't understand why the FBI is reading Miranda Rights to terror suspects who are not United States citizens. I am against giving terrorists rights that only should be afforded to U.S. citizens regardless of which administration was/is having FBI agents do it. Are we constitutionally bound to do this? Or is the FBI using Miranda Rights as a tool in order to gain information? Is this setting a dangerous precedent? Why is the FBI only mirandizing a select few of the suspected terrorists? President Obama has just recently decided that the detainees at Guantanomo Bay are not going to come to U.S. for military tribunals. Bush never considered this to be an option either. So, then why are we essentially giving suspected terrorists rights that they are not required to have by law since they are not going to be coming to the United States?
 
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